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| Crew Information & Photos |
| Trek Selection | |
| The Philmont Way | |
| Gear Info & Reviews | |
| Shopping Links | |
| Philmont Links | |
| Travel Information | |
Eligible Scouts must be fourteen years-old (14) by January 1, 2010; or have completed the eight grade and be thirteen by July 31, 2010.
We will receive our information packet in January. This packet will include information on fees, due dates, medical forms, etc. We will provide this information ass soon as it is available. A rough estimate on costs is $1,000 per person; $620 Philmont fees, $300 for transportation and $100 for travel meals and souvenirs, and there will be expenses for gear. There will be discussions and information on gear and different options so you can purchase items on sale or even borrow items, such as a backpack.
Philmont fees are paid in three parts. An initial deposit of $50 per person to secure the reservation will be due in January or February (I will know the exact date once we receive the information packet). Then half of the remaining balance next October and the remainder in March of 2010. ALL PHILMONT FEES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE. I you must drop out for any reason, you are responsible for securing a replacement crew member or forfeit your fees paid to that date. There will be several troop fund raisers between now and the payment dates so I encourage all crew members to participate and build up their Scout accounts to pay for their high adventure.
More information for crew members and their parents will be posted here as soon as it's available.
Troop 149 has a reservation for a High Adventure backpacking trek at Philmont Scout Ranch in the summer of 2010. Our crew will consist of 12 members, up to 8-9 scouts and 4-3 adults over 21. The cost for the trip is estimated at $800 -$1,000, $590/person for Philmont plus transportation, travel meals, lodging (if needed) and gear. A better estimate will be made once travel arrangements are finalized. A $50 non-refundable deposit for Philmont will be due at the January 20 troop meeting where we hold a mandatory meeting for both parents and scouts. A second payment of approximately $270.00 will be due at the September 15, 2009 meeting, and a final payment of approximately $270.00 is due February 16, 2010. The Philmont fees for 2010 have not been announced yet so the amount may be slightly higher if they raise the fees. Payments are your responsibility. Due to the cost of this event once a deposit is made, the individual is then responsible for the entire payment. If you must drop out, you will not be refunded moneys paid to date unless you find a qualified replacement who will reimburse your money and take over remaining payments. Payments for transportation and any other miscellaneous costs, such as crew t-shirts and shake down hikes, will be set as arrangements and costs are finalized.
There are age and weight restrictions for participation. Scouts must be 14 by January 1, 2010 or have complete eighth grade and be at least 13 prior to the trek. The weight restriction is dependent upon your height and applies to both youth and adults. Check the attached Risk Advisory and weight chart for your height/weight limit. There are no exceptions. Refunds are not given to individuals who do not meet these requirements.
The single most important factor in having an excellent Philmont experience is proper crew development here in McHenry long before we leave for New Mexico. This is accomplished through participation in shakedown training events and Crew meetings. All participants are required to make all shakedown events and all crew meetings. The only exemptions to this policy will be EXCUSED ABSENCES (by me) for PLAYOFF sporting events (not practices or regular season games), priority academic events (SAT's or High School Entrance Exams), or illnesses. I will make every effort to consider participants schedules in advance of scheduling shakedowns and crew meetings. Failure to attend an activity without an approved excused will be grounds for immediate termination, with replacement from the waiting list. In short, we will not take your son's Philmont experience any more seriously than he does. If you or your son are unable or unwilling to make these commitments, withdraw immediately! - none of us needs the aggravation. Below is a commitment form ( sign up document) that you and your son MUST sign and return along with your first payment on January 20; failure to do so will be considered an automatic withdrawal from the trek.
I can relate to you from my own experience that Philmont
is indeed an experience of a lifetime. It does require a significant commitment
but those who are willing to make that commitment will be rewarded. The
requirements stated above as well as the Commitment Form on the next page may
seem extreme, but again I can relate to you from my experience that it’s
necessary to better ensure a safe and quality trek for all participants. The
Adult Advisors on this trek will be dedicating many hours of their time and
significant effort to provide this opportunity. It’s not too much to ask that
the Scouts demonstrate a high level of commitment to the trek as well. Please
feel free to contact me if you have questions regarding the dates, trek
selection, requirements or even Philmont in general.
| 2010 Signup.doc (Word
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| Youth | Adult Advisors | ||
| Crew Member | Role | Crew Member | Role |
| Kyle | Crew Leader | Tom Gauthier | Transportation |
| Nate | Chaplains Aide | Tim Jones | Lead Advisor |
| Dan | Eddie Norton | ||
| Cody | Scott Shelton |
Good news! Crew 801-G has been assigned their first choice, trek 14.
| Trek 14 Calendar | |
| The Routes | |
| Trek 14 Camp & Program Information | |
| Links |
More information will be added as I get it.
| Date | Location | Activity |
| 31-July | Leave McHenry for Philmont | Travel |
| 1-Aug | Base Camp | Check-In, Ranger Training & Opening Campfire |
| 2-Aug | Rayado River | Complete Check-in, Ranger Training, Tour Kit Carson Museum @ Rayado |
| 3-Aug | Urraca | Challenge Events, Evening Campfire |
| 4-Aug | Miners Park | Rock Climbing & Rappelling |
| 5-Aug | Black Mountain | Post Civil War Settlers, Blacksmithing, Black Powder Rifle |
| 6-Aug | Comanche | Trail Camp, Homesteading @ Crooked Creek |
| 7-Aug | Comanche Park | Dry Camp, Rocky Mountain Fur Company & Water @ Clear Creek, Hike over Mt. Phillips |
| 8-Aug | Lower Sawmill | .30-06 Rifle & Reloading, Metallic Silhouette Shooting @ Sawmill |
| 9-Aug | Hunting Lodge | Cabin Tour, Conservation |
| 10-Aug | Upper Clarks Fork | Western Lore, Horse Rides, Branding, Chuck Wagon Dinner @ Clarks Fork |
| 11-Aug | Tooth Ridge | Dry Camp, Water @ Clarks Fork Trail Camp |
| 12-Aug | Base Camp | Visit Museum (time permitting), Lunch in Cimarron, Awards Campfire |
| 13-Aug | Arrive back home in McHenry | Travel |
Zastrow Turn
Around to Rayado River (1.2 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Rayado
River to
Urraca (4.7 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Urraca
to Miners Park (5.4 Miles
or 5.8 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map (over mesa) Route Map (around mesa) |
Miners Park to
Black Mountain (4.8 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Black
Mountain to Comanche (6.8 Miles
or 6.3 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map (via Phillips Junction) Route Map (via Big Red) |
Comanche to
Comanche Peak (6.6 Miles
or 7.2 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map (via Big Red) Route Map (via Clear Creek) |
Comanche Peak to Lower
Sawmill (8.1 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Lower Sawmill
to Hunting Lodge (2.9 Miles
or 5.6 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map (via Cimarroncito) Route Map (via Hidden Valley) |
Hunting
Lodge to Upper Clark's Fork (2.9 Miles)![]() |
| Cathedral Rock. Route Map |
Upper
Clark's Fork to Tooth Ridge (5.5 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Tooth Ridge to Base Camp (5.4 Miles)![]() |
| Description goes here. Route Map |
Rayado River (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: stream unpurified Facilities: Programs @ Rayado: Burro Packing Cantina Chuck Wagon Breakfast Chuck Wagon Dinner Western Lore Horse Rides Located at 7120 ft Latitude 36.37396 x Longitude -105.01232 TerraServer Map |
Urraca (back) |
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| Staffed Camp Water: spigot purified Facilities: Programs: Challenge Events Located at 7960 ft Latitude 36.40899 x Longitude -104.98988 TerraServer Map |
Miners Park (back) |
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| Staffed Camp Water: well purified Facilities: Showers Programs: Environmental Awareness; Rock Climbing / Rappelling Located at 7960 ft Latitude 36.42195 x Longitude -105.04126 TerraServer Map |
Black Mountain (back) |
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| Staffed Camp Water: stream unpurified Facilities: Programs: Black Powder Rifle Blacksmithing Post Civil War Settlers Located at 9040 ft Latitude 36.44083 x Longitude -105.0927 TerraServer Map |
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Comanche (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: Rayado Creek unpurified Facilities: @ Crooked Creek Homesteading Programs: Located at 9600 ft Latitude 36.44807 x Longitude -105.16256 TerraServer Map |
Comanche Peak (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: spring unpurified (usually dry) Facilities: Programs: @ Clear Creek Black Powder Rifle Rocky Mountain Fur Company Mount Phillips Located at 11040 ft Latitude 36.47883 x Longitude -105.13742 TerraServer Map |
Lower Sawmill (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: stream unpurified (usually dry) Facilities: @ Sawmill Showers Programs: @ Sawmill 30/06 Rifle Shooting/Reloading Located at 8400 ft Latitude 36.52 x Longitude -105.07778 TerraServer Map |
Hunting Lodge (back) |
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| Staffed Camp Water: well purified Facilities: Programs: Hunting Lodge Tour Side Hike Hidden Valley Located at 7760 ft Latitude 36.48592 x Longitude -105.0632 TerraServer Map |
Upper Clark's Fork (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: stream unpurified (Usually dry) Facilities: Programs: @ Clark's Fork Chuck Wagon Dinner Western Lore Horse Rides Located at 7920 ft Latitude 36.45848 x Longitude -105.04841 TerraServer Map |
Tooth Ridge (back) |
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| Trail Camp Water: None Facilities: Programs: Tooth of Time Located at 8280 ft Latitude 36.44942 x Longitude -104.99748 TerraServer Map |
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Base Camp (back)
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Water: well purified Facilities: Showers; Trading Post Programs: Awards Campfire Visit the Villa Philmonte Seton Memorial Library and Philmont Museum Located at 6650 ft Latitude 36.4529 x Longitude -104.9565 TerraServer Map
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Here's an archive of tips and techniques used at Philmont. Some are from former Philmont trekkers or staff. Others are articles recommended by them. These are all in Adobe Acrobat format.
| Gear Checklist | |
| FoxSox new antimicrobial liner socks "Fox River X-StaticÆ Sock Liner" a product review by Rhett Olsen | |
| Duofold T-Shirts we Ordered from Campmor | |
| World Wide Sportsman Pro IV Zip-Off Pants from Bass Pro Shops (possible group order) | |
| World Wide Sportsman Pro IV Long-Sleeve Shirt from Bass Pro Shops (possible group order) |
Here are some internet links to places for purchasing your gear. The companies are listed in alphabetical order.
| Bass Pro (Clothing) | |
| Campmor (Troop receives 10% - see Mr. Vannerson) | |
| Frogg Toggs (rain gear) | |
| FoxSox Catalog - Outdoor, Athletic and Casual Socks (Lists Meijers in McHenry as a distributor but they may not have all styles) | |
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Open Country (Comments from Troop 445: "Extremely friendly and helpful. The 8-qt pots are not listed for sale individually on the website, but can be purchased individually from them. The lids we use are listed as 10-qt kettle lids in their catalog.") | |
| Sportsmans Guide (surplus and discontinued items) | |
| Tooth of Time Traders (Philmont's store) | |
| Wiggy's Outdoor Gear (HIGH end sleeping systems $$$) |
| 2004 Philmont Crew 801-O | |
| 2007 Cavalcade Crew 803-CX |
| Philmont Scout Ranch | |
| Selden's List of
Philmont Web Pages (Huge directory of almost everything written on the web about Philmont) | |
| Amtrak's Southwest Chief |
| Philmont Weight Restrictions, Recommendations Regarding Chronic Illness & Risk Advisory | |
| Philmont Backpacking Gear | |
| PHILMONT GPS WAYPOINT DATABASE | |
| Bear Safety - Troop 111 Nat. Capital Area |
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PhilSearch (The most comprehensive site for trek preparation and selection) | |
| Julian Love's
site (Tracking of how the various routes have changed between 2002 & 2006) | |
| Day-by-day 2003 trek summary (Excel
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| Day-by-day 2003 trek summary (PDF
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Wachu Experience 2008 Trek Comparison Spreadsheet (Excel
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| Troop 149 Crew 801-O 2004 | |
| Philmont 02 Page | |
| Webshots Community - Philmont |
The crew will use three modes of transportation;
| Metra commuter train between Crystal Lake and downtown Chicago | |
| Amtrak train between Chicago and Raton, NM | |
| Philmont shuttle bus between Raton, NM and Philmont base camp |
| Leg | Fare |
| Metra | $14.00 |
| Amtrak | $150.00 |
| Shuttle | $25.00 |
Total |
$189.00 |
The time table below is estimated. Actual times will be updated once final reservations are confirmed. Also, Amtrak often runs late so actual arrival times may vary. A calling tree will be established for the return leg so that all families are updated on delays and can plan accordingly.
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